Intro: The Other Brian Sits In [00:00:00]

Nicky P: Welcome everyone to another episode of We Came From Celluloid. I am Nicky P, here as always, but not as always with Mr. Pritchard. Today we are gifted and grievously awarded the other Brian of the band, my guitar-playing, six-string brother, Mr. Noll. How are we doing there, Brian Noll?

Brian Noll: Doing excellent. You, sir?

Nicky P: So other Brian is out for the week. He's out doing movie pictures with his wife and stuff like that, so we're letting him enjoy his time. I was just talking about a project for social media for the band that I'm working on with Mr. Noll here.

Villain Dances and the Yacht Rock Torture Scene [00:00:45]

Nicky P: I've been looking up clips of my favorite villain dances, and you'd be surprised how many great iconic villain sequences there are of dancing. You think Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs, or Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, when he's doing the, before he hacks up, what's his name? Clockwork Orange, Joker. One that's newly come to my attention is the big dance sequence in The Wolf of Wall Street. That's pretty fun.

Brian Noll: Oh, yeah.

Nicky P: Probably one of my favorites is Michael C. Hall in the movie Gamer, if you've ever seen it, where it's just the wildest thing. But my new favorite is, for anyone who's been watching the Reacher spinoff, Neagley, one of the main villains is a '70s hippie wannabe. They're definitely basing him off of Mr. Helter Skelter himself. You know, the washed-up musician that never quite made it. But the song that sets the scene, and this is the key. They're bringing in a big old '80s boombox. It's wired into the wall, and they're bringing in a tub of water to, you know, they're gonna electrocute a kid to get him to talk about whatever. And the song they choose to have him doing his little old guy dances to is How Much I Feel by Ambrosia. [sings a line from the song] The most yachty of yacht rock songs ever.

Brian Noll: There you go. Yeah.

Nicky P: So just try and imagine some guy doing an old '70s kinda cool guy dance to the just sleaziest yacht rock song imaginable as they're about to torture some guy. It's something special, let me tell you.

Seven-Year-Olds and a Costume Party [00:03:00]

Nicky P: So how has life been treating you, Mr. Noll?

Brian Noll: Oh, you know, taking it a day at a time. Got a lot on the family plate generally speaking, and a lot on the professional work plate. But try to spend as much free time outside of those things endeavoring the band music.

Nicky P: You got those young kids, man.

Brian Noll: Yeah, yeah. So they just turned seven this weekend. Had a big old party, 22 kids at the place. It was bananas.

Nicky P: Oh, I see. We should've went homeschool. There's none of those big parties.

Brian Noll: Yeah, well, that's true. They started a new school this year, so lots of new blood at the house, and had a good time. It was awesome. And we're just having fun with them, man. They're a lot of work.

Nicky P: What are kids' parties like now? Because from what I understand, talking to other millennial parents, it's definitely not like it was when we were kids. When we were kids, sleepovers were a thing, and from what I understand, that's just not something anybody does anymore. I thought it was something weird because we were homeschoolers, but I'm finding out that public school kids don't do it anymore either.

Brian Noll: They're not in sleepover zone yet, so we haven't crossed that bridge, thank God, I guess. Although, boy, when they're sleeping somewhere else, that's the bomb. But for our party, it was such a nice day. We were outside, man. We had the fire ripping, and the kids were just running around. It was a costume party ahead of Halloween. Let them wear costumes two times, right? Or change it up. You can be Harry Potter this time, and then roll the dice and see what you're gonna be for Halloween.

Is Halloween Dying? [00:05:00]

Nicky P: I've been working with Irma on her costume. She's going as some weird anime character turned Roblox character, and trying to get it nailed.

Brian Noll: It's fun, man. I love when they get into it, you know? When they really dig into those passion projects, it's great.

Nicky P: We're gonna see. I told her this was her last year 'cause she'll be a teenager officially next year. Wife is trying to tell me, "Let her go as long as she wants." And like, yeah, but really? I've gotten so disillusioned with Halloween because our neighborhood doesn't do anything. I don't know how your neighborhood is, 'cause you guys are out in the sticks.

Brian Noll: Lots of kids. Lots of kids, so it's a thing.

Nicky P: Well, that's good. I used to live honestly about as far out of town as you do. And so we didn't get a ton of trick-or-treaters, but we always rewarded them well if they made it that far out of town.

Brian Noll: Sure, sure.

Nicky P: Most of the people on our street were giving out full candy bars. Not that anyone can do that anymore.

Brian Noll: Yeah, not again.

Nicky P: Couple hundred bucks and 10 kids. But our street here, I've given out probably 200 bucks in candy the past three or four years, and on my actual street there's maybe one other house on, and then the neighborhood maybe 10 houses. Obviously Christmas is my holiday, but it just feels weird to not celebrate like that. Is that a thing that we're doing to kids? Is it a thing where kids are doing to us? I don't know.

Brian Noll: It is strange, man. It's strange. 'Cause back in our day, trick-or-treating, it was every house.

Nicky P: You try and nail it so you could get two or three nights a week, 'cause you find the towns and what night they were doing it. Somebody doing Saturday, somebody doing Friday, and you just try and hammer out an itinerary. Where are the trunk-or-treat locations? We'll go hit one of those up, then move on to actual trick-or-treating.

Brian Noll: We got a trunk-or-treat coming up this weekend, dude, so it's gonna be hot.

Nicky P: I think I gotta verify with Levy that he's still open to it, but we were talking about me going out and hanging out with them and Irma going trick-or-treating with those kids out in Runsway.

Brian Noll: You should. That's an awesome neighborhood, dude. Tons of kids, and I think tons of kids her age, too.

Nicky P: Yeah, and any chance I can get Irma out around other kids is honestly what I'm trying to do.

Brian Noll: Yeah, dude. I think she would thrive there. That would be awesome. I would tell her she could come to our place, but, like, we don't go very far, if you know what I'm saying. At seven. And then my kids got all those food allergies, so candy, they don't really get into that stuff anyway. Well, they would love to, but they can't.

The Candy Trade Economy [00:08:00]

Nicky P: Well, part of the problem with me is what you do when you come home is then the wheeling and dealing starts. Dad's got the candy that Dad picked up that didn't go out the door, and then we start doing the trades, 'cause this is stuff that Dad really wants, Dad doesn't have, and he'll start trading. What's the value of this worth versus that? Next thing you know, she's smart one way. She doesn't always end up with the best candy, but she always ends up with enough candy to last her three months if she wants it to.

Brian Noll: Good for her, so she's a budgeter. That's a good skill, man.

Nicky P: Yes, she's definitely thinking there. Her process is different than mine was as a kid. My process as a kid was I'll give away as much as I can to just give me the Reese's Cups.

Brian Noll: Oh, Reese's. I like it. I was more of a Skittles or Nerds, you know?

Nicky P: Well, don't get me wrong. If we're gonna talk about my candy of choice, it's Starburst Jelly Beans.

Brian Noll: Ooh, that's a good choice.

Nicky P: But those aren't usually around during Halloween, so I'll take my Reese's Cups instead.

Brian Noll: A Reese's Cup frozen, are you a fan?

Nicky P: Not that I've ever tried it.

Brian Noll: Dude, put it in the freezer, bud. It's a hit.

Nicky P: Sounds good. You know what I'll say is I've had them crushed up and frozen. When we were kids, my mom used to do, for various parties, a sundae tray, and so we'd have all crushed up candy bars, Rolos, and stuff like that in a tray. But to make it work, you'd have to freeze them to crush them in the food processor. So I've definitely had crushed up Reese's and Snickers in that context over ice cream.

Brian Noll: Oh, Rolos. Frozen Rolos is a hit too, dude. That's wicked good.

Catching Noll on His Way to Bed [00:10:00]

Nicky P: Well, it is what it is. So obviously, folks, we have ourselves a little bit of a different energy here. Usually me and Brian are on here starting out the day, getting ready to go on the attack mode, and we're catching Noll on his way to bed here.

Brian Noll: 9:21 PM, baby.

Nicky P: He has had the kids suck every ounce of energy out of him.

Brian Noll: True. Truth. Parent-teacher conferences tonight. It was a blast.

Nicky P: Dude, that sounds awful. I can't even imagine having to sit through parent-teacher conferences and somebody critiquing my child. What is that like these days? 'Cause I know they've gotta be terrified of what they say, that they might have to deal with the school board over something on the one hand, but then you got at least one busybody that knows better than you do on everything, that you just wanna punch in the mouth. At least that's what I'm expecting. You're actually in that world.

Brian Noll: It was actually pretty pleasant enough. They go to a Montessori school, so it's a very—

Nicky P: Hippie anyways.

Brian Noll: Yeah, it's very nutty crunch in how they do kind of everything. But they do, I think, a very thorough job of addressing all the phases of learning that they wanna go through. So by that measure, I thought they were very thorough. They were critical, constructively, right? Not just, "Your kid isn't doing this, that, the other," but more just, "Here's where we need to work on improving."

Nicky P: Irma has been modified Charlotte Mason. That was our education background. But with the Montessori, isn't that one a lot of really just tracking the kid's natural development, not putting a whole lot of stress on, "Oh, they're behind in this and this"? Knowing, "Oh, no, the kid's gonna get there when they get there."

Brian Noll: Exactly. It's more guiding them on a path to get to an eventual point in time, but not necessarily going straight at it, but kinda letting them carve their way, and then guiding that based on where they are in their development to get to the point where you need them to be.

Nicky P: Yeah. Well, that's good.

School, Reading, and Heidegger's Ten-Page Paragraph [00:12:15]

Brian Noll: I was a public school kid, so I—

Nicky P: Oh, I was too. Yeah. I attribute it to why I learned to hate reading. And mind you, this has been the first two years I haven't been reading heavily, 'cause I've been frankly so busy trying to get band stuff to push through. But usually I'm about a 100-books-a-year guy. So the fact that school made me hate reading, and that's where I'm at as an adult, it's like they messed up somewhere really badly.

Brian Noll: It'll do that, man. It'll certainly do that. And especially if you pursue certain post-secondary degrees. If you go to law school, buddy, just get ready. Saddle up. It's reading that will make you never wanna read again. I'm glad I did not go to law school, 'cause I thoroughly enjoy reading now. It's great.

Nicky P: I was an ethics minor in college.

Brian Noll: Oh. Boy, that's for you.

Nicky P: And in particular was taking those 400-level philosophy courses and phenomenology and things of that nature. So I don't know how much Husserl and Maurice Merleau-Ponty you've read, or Heidegger and all the other existentialist philosophers. That'll make you not wanna read anymore.

Brian Noll: I know of them, but I have not endeavored any of that reading.

Nicky P: I always tell people I remember Heidegger. I can't remember which book it was, but he had one paragraph that went on for 10 pages. Part of this is obviously translation from German for him. But by the time you get to the end of the paragraph—

Brian Noll: You're exhausted.

Nicky P: —you've completely forgotten what the paragraph is about, 'cause you can't keep that much in your brain at any given time.

Brian Noll: Too much. It's too much.

Nicky P: Everything is a modifier of a modifier of a modifier of a what? Where did this whole thing even start? But it was interesting stuff. Certainly interesting stuff.

What We're Watching: Bull and The Gentlemen [00:14:30]

Nicky P: So obviously you're busy, so you haven't been watching a ton of stuff out there is my guess.

Brian Noll: Not necessarily. The wife and I get some time from time to time at night to plug in a little bit.

Nicky P: I'm assuming that's like procedurals, right? Like we do over here. Right now I'm watching Bull.

Brian Noll: Ooh, nice. We did a show on Netflix called The Gentlemen. I don't know if you've heard of it.

Nicky P: I've never watched the show. The movie I watch probably once or twice a month, just because it's background noise for me, but Matthew McConaughey and everybody in the movie of The Gentlemen is maybe the funniest stuff in the entire world. Charlie Hunnam kills me, watching him play the, quote-unquote, "enforcer" for Matthew McConaughey's British gangster. And what's the other guy? The Irish guy is how I think of him. Colin Farrell as Coach.

Brian Noll: Oh, yeah. Boy, what a cast.

Nicky P: Oh, dude, it's a stupid cast. It's so good. And I slept on it, 'cause it came out, what, 2017, I think? I ended up sleeping on it for maybe six or honestly might've been eight, nine years. I'd even heard people talk about it. I'm like, "I don't know, it's not my interest." It sounds like action, and I don't like action movies. They're generally boring to me.

Brian Noll: Sure. Yeah, yeah.

Nicky P: But man, I went back. It's just funny.

Brian Noll: Frankly, I thought the writing was good. I thought the acting was good. It's Theo, oh my gosh. He was in White Lotus season one. Theo, British guy.

Nicky P: Isn't it still a Guy Ritchie?

Brian Noll: Oh, it's Guy Ritchie. It's fantastic. And it's very Guy Ritchie, if you know what I'm saying. In cinematography and all.

Nicky P: My only beef with Guy Ritchie is when I don't get a good dose of Vinnie Jones in a Guy Ritchie movie, 'cause I'm still a Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels kind of guy.

Brian Noll: Oh, sure, dude. But it was a joy. It was a really cool story. Compelling acting. Good arc. Two seasons.

Nicky P: Was gonna say, they're up onto season two now, aren't they?

Brian Noll: Yep, just got through season two. Let me at least bring up the cast here. Theo James is his name. He's the lead. Vinnie Jones is in it, who's a classic Guy Ritchie. Almost has to be in a Guy Ritchie film, right?

Nicky P: Oh, I love me my Vinnie Jones.

Brian Noll: You got Ray Winstone in it.

Nicky P: That's what surprises me. He's not in The Gentlemen, and I'm like, where's Vinnie Jones in this?

Brian Noll: Yeah. Or Ray Winstone. Fabulous. Giancarlo Esposito's in it.

Nicky P: Ah, love me some Giancarlo.

Brian Noll: Daniel Ings, I-N-G-S. He's fantastic in it. Plays a very unique character. So yeah, dude, it's good. I would very, very highly recommend it.

Looking Back on the First Tour [00:18:15]

Nicky P: Good. So I did wanna touch on some band stuff since we actually have you here, and I don't get a chance to talk about band stuff in the abstract.

Brian Noll: Yeah, buddy. That's cool.

Nicky P: So first thing is, I know that this is months ago for everybody, but I'm kinda interested in putting it in the open forum. Obviously this past summer we did what I'll classify as our first actual tour. How did you walk away from that? Did you kinda have everything packaged up by the time you got home as far as your feelings on it? Take you a while after that to decide how you felt about things? How did that all work out for you?

Brian Noll: Yeah, I mean, I think it did. There were always feelings at the more immediate, midterm, more long-term, all of which largely to me were just gratitude, to be able to take the time to do it. I don't get time away from my family. I've never been away from my family that long, frankly.

Nicky P: Me neither. I cried about it for weeks. Everybody knows.

Brian Noll: So in the moment there were moments where that was rough, where you're just like, "Oh man, I miss my kids," or, "I miss my wife," or whatever it was. But all that being said, just to be surrounded by your bros and to be doing a journey, despite the heat. The heat was just, it is what it is. That was just ruthless. Unrelenting heat, where you're like, "Damn, man."

Nicky P: Well, it was unrelenting for the first half of the trip. Once we got out west, I was surprised how much even my fat ass didn't mind it.

Brian Noll: Well, it's different, right? It's drier heat. It's not as overtly humid.

Nicky P: Once we hit Sioux Falls, I was pretty comfortable. Denver wasn't too bad.

Brian Noll: It did get a little better then. Denver wasn't too, too bad, so that was huge.

"We Got Better Every Show" [00:20:30]

Brian Noll: But yeah, man, just being able to hang with your bros. Musically, I thought Puma just excelled. I thought we got better every show, and that's what you want on a tour, right? Like a short tour.

Nicky P: I was loving the ability to iterate every show, and remember from the last show the things that you wanted to change and try out. And if they didn't work, don't do them the next one. Try something different. It's so hard when you go months at a time without playing shows.

Brian Noll: That's what it was. We saw dramatic improvement, I thought. It was really fun to do that. Think if you're a touring band that really hits the road, and you do that for a period of years, just how sickly tight you could get, theoretically. That would be kinda cool. But the road is, you know, man... it's a young man's game is kind of emotionally where I came away with it, where you're like, "Dude, here's the thing: it's an expensive habit if you really like to tour."

Nicky P: It's an expensive habit if you do it the way fricking Brian Pritchard wants to do it, personally.

Brian Noll: Well, we all had some influence there. We all threw down and made certain decisions, and Chicago was an extravagance.

Nicky P: I mean, me and Levi could tour pretty cheaply.

Brian Noll: Well, I think if you theoretically toured in a camping setup, where you could set it up in the rain and rain wouldn't be an issue, you're right, dude. You could road warrior that, make PB&Js.

Nicky P: Honestly, I wouldn't bother. I'd just sleep in my car in most cases. That's what me and Levy planned. We'll just sleep in the car. If we have to get a place, we'll get a place, but for us it'd be easy enough to just throw the gear in the back, pass out, and move on to the next place. Usually when my family goes on vacation, we'll sleep in the car on our way to wherever we're going if it's a multi-day trip, and we'll get Airbnbs and do camping stuff on the way back. But that first beginning of the trip, just every minute driving that we can. Just grind and be done with it.

Brian Noll: Just grind through it. Yeah.

Owning the Misses [00:23:00]

Brian Noll: And then further, just to add, for my Dome performance, I struggled vocally, I guess. I'm just not in a spot to be able to execute without certain feedback loops, right? Just being able to hear yourself. My takeaway, Nick, was this: dude, that was a risk I did not mitigate. If we ever did it again, I would make sure we had a plan, where we had certain things to provide the feedback loop.

Nicky P: A hundred percent.

Brian Noll: And you know there are tools to do that, and it just takes a bit of time, energy, and investment to fix that problem. That's just what I said to myself: to put that much effort and energy into getting the time off—I had to spend a lot of time building the bridge to be able to go over it, if you know what I'm saying.

Nicky P: Yeah.

Brian Noll: It's a lot of investment of time. Frankly, I was disappointed in myself and how Dome came off on the tour. But it wasn't negative. It was more just like, "Dude, you should have mitigated that risk."

Nicky P: To a certain degree, Brian, your expectations of yourself are out of there. Listening back to certainly the Denver show, man, you killed it. You're fine. Your vocals are good. You sounded fantastic. Everybody enjoyed it.

Brian Noll: Well, thanks. I appreciate it.

Nicky P: There's a couple of the nights in some of the more punky locations where you could tell that you were struggling with yourself, but—

Brian Noll: Yeah. But hey, dude. I've been there, right? I've had that scenario.

Nicky P: It comes with the learning experience across the board. I didn't expect us to do a whole heck of a lot other than, number one, test our mettle and just kinda learn a bunch of lessons about how it works.

"A Laughing Contest, and We All Won" [00:25:00]

Brian Noll: Yeah. I think for us to get through that experience, to see the things we saw and do the things we did along the way, Nick, was to me just the coolest, man. We strung together a week of a journey through the country none of us will ever forget. It was beyond memorable. We laughed so much. The thing people asked when I came back is, how was that tour? And it's like, dude, it was a fucking laughing contest, and we all won.

Nicky P: We all won. If anyone listening hasn't watched Pritchard's son's documentary he did of the tour, Coming Down the Road, I recommend going to watch it.

Brian Noll: It's fabulous.

Nicky P: There's definitely some moments, like Levy [singing a song], playing acoustic guitar as we're traveling through the middle of Wyoming.

Brian Noll: Oh, man. Just funny stuff, man.

Nicky P: The whole time. Me and Levy have always vibed in the band, but I was not expecting how big of a Weezer fan Levy apparently is.

Brian Noll: Oh, yeah, dude. Huge.

Nicky P: That one kinda took me. Really? You like Weezer that much?

Brian Noll: Great songs. Great songwriting, man.

Nicky P: Yeah, man. Great songwriting.

What's Next: The Church Creed, a Week Around Cleveland, and Con Shows [00:26:45]

Nicky P: So I've been doing a lot of work since I invented the church concept. I actually came up with the church creed that I'm gonna start every show out with from here on out, that I'm pretty excited to bring to the table at this Devil's Night show. That's gonna be pretty fun.

Brian Noll: What do we got? A week and a day, bro. Week and a day.

Nicky P: I know. I know. I hadn't quite gotten there for this last show. But I've been doing that. Always trying to work on the conceptual stuff and building this into more. Started working on the booking for next year and what I want that to look like. I'll put it out there. I'm not sure how you guys are feeling or what's doable. I would like to do, if we could pull it off, a week out as a full band. I don't wanna go out as far as Denver. There's a lot of places that we could play for a week—

Brian Noll: Or we could just, like, boop, boop, boom.

Nicky P: Honestly, yeah. If we could do a circle around Cleveland where everything is within three hours, and still fill an entire week of shows in cool cities. Like Erie, Pittsburgh, Columbus, West Virginia, Louisville. If you have Chicago be the far end of the thing, we've done a huge smattering of the Midwest. Outside of that, I'm trying to keep to what Connor—he kinda gave me a two-shows-a-month limit. Ideally, I wanted to try to do one in town, one out of town, and work with that is my plan. And to whatever degree me and Brian can find players if we have other opportunities come up, or to what the availability of anybody is. Obviously, we always prefer to have the core group. The other thing is I've started putting together the list of all of the cons, and so I want me and Brian to use the podcast and start doing acoustic shows at the various film and fan conventions to help promote the band in a different way, I guess. The idea is still to get the music out there and get people listening to it. But since me and him are the ones with the availability to get out there and do it, it's like, well, let's do it. Me and him can hop in a car for a weekend and go hit a couple cities and play. Why wouldn't we? It seems like the easiest thing to do.

Brian Noll: Sure, man.

The Most Active Puma Thurman Has Been in a Decade [00:29:15]

Nicky P: This has been probably the most active the band has been in a long, long time. Obviously I've been around for 10 years, and this is certainly the most active it's been since I've been on the project. How are you feeling about that? What are your expectations moving forward?

Brian Noll: No, I think it's great. Every time we play, we get new people who really dig our stuff. I thought the last show, even though there wasn't a lot of people there, what a cool venue, man. A place, Nick, I think we need to start really looking at doing some stuff.

Nicky P: We were already talking to the guys. We are honestly almost there.

Brian Noll: Yeah. Jimmy was cool too, man. They were just awesome. I loved that place.

Nicky P: He came at me and got me the date in December, but he never responded to me on that day until literally 11:00 at night, and at like 10:00 Pritchard's like, "Hey man, if we don't have a set, I gotta let the Maple Grove know that we're doing it there," 'cause Jeremy's been holding that date for us for a while. So sadly, he gets a hold of me, and I had to say, "Hey dude, I know I made a big deal about this, but it didn't work out. I'm sorry. Let me know if I can do anything to help you." And he still sounds really excited to get us out again, so I don't think that's going to be a problem, to say the least.

Brian Noll: Yeah. I think he really dug our stuff. He came up and gave me, not a hug, but was just like, "Wow, that was really fun to see you guys play."

"It's Adventure Rock" [00:31:15]

Nicky P: Most places we go, people tend to dig our stuff.

Brian Noll: At least most of the day they do. It's a unique brand of rock. It certainly is. We don't play something that's normal, but I think it's graspable. It's not like, "What the fuck is this?"

Nicky P: I mean, we clearly have fun with it.

Brian Noll: It's kinda unique. It's unique rock, man. It's adventure rock. Exactly what it sounds like.

Nicky P: The Adventure Rock is actually in the current band bio, which lists us as—I don't know. It's something silly about some part of the church. I don't know if they classified us as a church band necessarily.

Brian Noll: Church band, I love it. I don't know about that, but cool. I dig it.

Nicky P: A church band for the first universal national whatever. Part of me wanted that name to be super long, like the name they use in Don't Be a Menace. But I couldn't come up with stuff to make it quite that silly. I'm a little upset with myself over that one.

Brian Noll: Don't be a menace while drinking your juice. That's a good one. Classic line. Ron Hope, fool.

First Time on the Mic: Riding the Wave [00:32:45]

Nicky P: So since this is your first time on the show, is there anything you wanna get off your chest and say while you got the microphone here and you're talking to people that listen to us?

Brian Noll: Other than just thank you to everybody who digs our music and spreads the gospel, we always appreciate it, shows up to our shows, supports us as musicians, our families, all those folks. Just thank you for what you do for making us chase our passions and dreams and playing rock and roll with our buddies, because there's nothing cooler than that, I think, in the world, other than chilling with your fam and doing the things you love. So I'm happy to count you as one of those dudes that I just thoroughly enjoy playing rock and roll with, man. I always compare it to being a professional surfer riding a wave. Sometimes it's huge. You're in this shit, and you're looking around and you're like, "Man, this is so much bigger than me." It's kinda like that feeling with a band. Sometimes the wave of music, it's like that, you know?

Nicky P: It's funny you say surfer, 'cause you didn't know me back when I was 19 and obsessed with Jack Johnson.

Brian Noll: Well, there you go. Totally.

Nicky P: Yes. I had that phase. But you're fitting in perfect, because this show is so much at the intersection of pop culture, music, movies, and being a dad. Which we find with so many of the bands that we talk to. Great people, in a lot of cases old heads just like us. They've got their kids, and they're dealing with the struggles of trying to be a musician while being a dad. With the exception of what would've been last week's guest interview, The Femaliens. They were all very, very young women, doing a very different kind of thing than we're doing in some ways.

Brian Noll: Oh, gotcha. Good for them.

Nicky P: They'll be with us at the Maple Grove show on Devil's Night.

Brian Noll: On 10/30, nice. Cool. That'll be great.

Devil's Night at the Maple Grove: Three Rappers, Three Bands [00:34:30]

Brian Noll: What do we have set-wise? Are we 30?

Nicky P: I have no idea how the set's gonna work, 'cause there's three rappers and three bands.

Brian Noll: Wait, three rappers?

Nicky P: Oh, yeah. This is gonna be a very, very interesting show.

Brian Noll: Nice. Okay. Cool. An eclectic show.

Nicky P: And because it is gonna be so interesting, me and Pritchard had the idea, and I kinda get the idea, I just wanna tear into it, of doing an Ozzfest or Family Values Tour–style comp for the show. We'll each pick two live tracks from the date, all of the acts, put 'em on a comp, and put it out to share online. That just sounds like so much fun.

Brian Noll: Wow. That would be cool. Interesting. Three rappers. I can't wait to see this.

Nicky P: One of them is very, very country from what I can tell.

Brian Noll: Whoa.

Nicky P: Me and Brian, A-Dub, we had him actually on the podcast. He'll come out next week. Shortly, probably about the same time this episode actually drops, will be our interview with In a Rut. They're a pop punk band out of Akron, Cuyahoga Falls, I think, something like that. Canton, maybe. And then I don't know much about the other group. I think it's a duo out of Cincinnati, maybe. Rap group, Cincinnati. But it's gonna be a fun show, man. There's gonna be a lot going on. It's gonna be interesting. I'm excited about that.

Brian Noll: Is everybody upstairs? Like, all six acts will be on the same stage, or are they gonna stack? 'Cause there is a stage down there, too.

Nicky P: As far as I know. Yeah, but I think when you're down there, it's not a charging situation. There's no door, and they're just having a musician. We paid the cover to come in—

Brian Noll: Yeah, exactly.

Nicky P: And maybe, I don't know. I've never had to deal with the music there. But I believe it's just gonna be a slightly longer show upstairs.

Brian Noll: It'll be fun.

Nicky P: I love it. We get to tell band mates about everything while we're on the podcast. I don't know. I just show up when you tell me to show up, guys.

Why the Maple Grove Feels Like Home (Just Don't Make It Like The Crow) [00:37:00]

Brian Noll: I like the Maple Grove, dude. Jeremy does a really good job sound-wise, and as a musician, man, that makes all the difference. It really does. It's just a beautiful thing when you got a good sound guy.

Nicky P: I like the shape of the room. It's a nice, comfortable room.

Brian Noll: Totally.

Nicky P: And we'll get a good audience in there.

Brian Noll: Yeah. And I like the vibes there. I just enjoy that place. The parking lot's cool. We got our band photo out there, you know? That place, memories. Just fond memories, you know?

Nicky P: Memories indeed. Well, the memories are always building, folks. So if you wanna make another one this Devil's Night, come on out with Puma Thurman and a bunch of our friends, some of our guests on the show, and have a Devil's Night to remember. Just not like The Crow. Don't make it like The Crow. That'll be weird.

Brian Noll: Totally. Great movie.

Nicky P: I love that movie, but this is a weird Devil's Night. Epic soundtrack. No dying.

Brian Noll: Yeah.

Nicky P: Thank you, folks, and take it easy.