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Nicky P: Welcome everyone to another episode of We Came From Celluloid. I am Nicky P., here as always with the man, the myth, the double D legend, Brian Pritchard. How we doing today, Brian?

Brian Pritchard: Wonderful, Nick. Nice to see you again, as always. And I can't believe we're so lucky to have two guests today. This is a first as well.

Nicky P: So today we have two of the gentlemen from I don't wanna say your name obviously. I gotta look it up. I wanna say Hey Neighbor, but I know it's not. So Neighbor Dan. Yeah, Neighbor Dan. Where were you guys out of again?

T.J Costanza: Kinda Youngstown, Ohio-ish.

Nicky P: Okay.

T.J Costanza: You g- guys know Mercer, Pennsylvania?

Nicky P: I do actually have a good friend from Mercer, Pennsylvania.

T.J Costanza: What's the name?

Nicky P: It is not a g- it is not a guy named Phil. So we're gonna be playing a show with you guys on the 19th, Juneteenth here, as my, my wife would say. She wouldn't actually say that. She thinks it's silly. But we're very excited about that, so I was like, jumped at the chance to get you guys on to talk to me and Brian here.

T.J Costanza: Right on, man. We appreciate it.

Brian Pritchard: Dude, and I can't believe again, I'm just gonna jump in, as we were, observing right before you started hitting record, like I wish I could zoom in more on that background. But, w- I used to record upstairs in my office area, which is my movie den. Nick still does record in his movie den, and you appear to be, coming to us from your movie den, Zach.

Is that, correct?

T.J Costanza: I'll do it from my CD den then I guess. There we go. There we go. Now we all

Brian Pritchard: Have depth. Yes, yes. Now, now, now I'm gonna have to go upstairs in a minute, yeah, and just make sure that all the backdrops are, are properly aligned.

T.J Costanza: These are compact discs, gentlemen. Old school tech.

Brian Pritchard: I mean, I'm so close even now to...

I have enough physical media stuff in my house that I could go over here and we could talk about this shelf, right? Or I could go over here and we could talk about that one, but no. I'll stay, I'll stay in my little couch zone for now. But, does... Tell me, does, does, uh-

Nicky P: As he's playing Vanna White.

Brian Pritchard: Does your love of, of, of film influence your music as, we make, put it right on, on Front Street that it does with ours?

Is it part of, of your musical, language as well, cinema?

T.J Costanza: Interesting question I guess subconsciously it, it, it probably does. We never really thought about it, at least n- I personally haven't. We haven't really talked about it too much in the form of the music, I guess, but-

Brian Pritchard: What's the, the writing dynamic like?

Who, who are... How do you guys, you know, break up from a, a creativity moment of inception? Is it hashed out in the room? Do you have guys that show up with material already, you know, partially or fully formed? What's, what's that vibe like for, for Human Dan?

T.J Costanza: It's kind of both. Like sometimes we'll show up, like one of us will have a half complete song, some o- sometimes we've had full songs, and then we'll all jam it out together.

And then... Or we'll just be jamming and save riffs, and that turns into a song. One of us will present one riff and that turns into a song. So it's, it's, you know, it's kinda, it's kinda different, I guess.

Brian Pritchard: So a lot of it is happening in, in, in the room through rehearsals, through just ta- taking ideas, exploring it, recording stuff, you know?

More so than somebody coming with something, like, written from front to back.

T.J Costanza: From front to back, yeah, yeah. That's, that, that only happens a few times, but it's, it's more, it's more a group thing. At least we try to do that as much as possible, so.

Brian Pritchard: And on the lyric side, is that, is that all one, one person who, who does lyric writing, or is that also, you know, something that people are contributing to collectively?

T.J Costanza: So it's kind of, I hate to use the Beatles comparison, but like, you know, John Lennon wrote his lyrics for his songs and Paul wrote his songs, wrote his lyrics for his songs. So like I'll come with a song, I'll write the lyrics. Our guitar player Phil will come with a song, he'll write the lyrics. And then if we have any su- like suggestions to, to, to each other with the lyrics, then we'll, we'll throw them out there, and we'll normally be pretty receptive.

But, you know, it's, it's a Beatles-ish kind of a thing.

Brian Pritchard: Got it. Got it, okay. Okay, so, so yeah, it's... You're, you're saying that it's sorta going back and forth.

T.J Costanza: Y- yeah. And then, then two, two months after a song's written, then one of us will be like, "Hey, let's change this one part," and, you know, and then Well,

Brian Pritchard: That happens for sure when you've lived with the material long enough, yeah.

Then, then ideas start coming about how to, how to tweak it. And, and, and Zach, I guess, you know, just to get your perspective on it, you know, TJ had weighed in that, that the, the movie side isn't something that you guys, you know, necessarily bring in. So from, from a lyrical perspective or otherwise, you know, I mean, as a, a lover of film, like, you know, d- does, does it for you impact, what you do inside the band at all?

Nicky P: You laugh, but I'll, I'm always looking for ways to, like, Easter egg movie themes in

Brian Pritchard: Sure. I mean, you know, part of, part of the love of film is, like, whether it's somebody like John Carpenter doing the, synth scores or, you know, every once in a while 'cause, you know, I'll, I'll nerd out enough to watch the bonus features on stuff, and I'll suddenly, like, realize that, like, the same composer, for example, did the music from, Back to the Future that does the music for Predator, right?

Like, those movies don't really have anything in common except I found both of them, like, exciting as hell when I was a kid. And, and the idea that, like, oh, those were a year apart. If you just listen to the, like, the soundtracks of those, they sound like companion pieces. They're basically the same album, coming out at the same time from the same artist.

So there's this interesting question of going, like, yeah, do, is part of the love of Predator and Back to the Future because Alan Silvestri is so good at writing exciting music? Like, I don't know. And when I'm, I, when I get excited about other people's exciting music, it makes me wanna write exciting music.

So I definitely think about the connection between, the stuff that gets me excited as a fan, and that doesn't have to be movies. Like, if not movies, are there, what are some of your favorite, like, you know, musical influences that you're bringing to the table?

T.J Costanza: Captain Geech and the Shrimp Shack Shooters.

No, I'm just kidding. If anyone gets that actual reference, I'll give you a high five at the show. All right. Good, good. We, we're all like, we all like real slow, heavy stuff like Isis, Pelican. That seems to be the common ground, I'm pretty sure, and then everything else, everybody just, we all have different influences.

Like our drummer likes crappy music. I guess it's all relative, right? But no, it's... It- he also likes good stuff too. I like crappy music. I'm sure Zach likes crappy music. We all like crappy music, so it's, you know...

Neighbor Dan: Yeah.

T.J Costanza: Yeah. Crappy music is our, is our religion actually

Mm-hmm

We kinda want that to be, at least we tossed around the idea of having the, the Vengabus song be our, like, play over the PA system at the show before our set, just to kinda... Right? Dude, super catchy.

Nicky P: They have another song that I absolutely love. I can never remember the name of that one, though. I think, I think...

Yeah, Boom, that's the one.

So o- one of the things I, I wanted to ask is because there's this whole new type of music that's, like, certainly going around. It, it feels like it's something that maybe came out of the Midwest emo movement, but it's like, it's also so much like the post-hardcore crap that I grew up with. What the hell do you guys, like, classify yourself as musically?

To me it's just kind of like next gen emo, but, like, you're way heavier than that, and it's kind of like-

T.J Costanza: Someone, someone said, s- a, a friend at a show a couple years ago said we were calculated loudness. I enjoyed that as a genre-defining thing. On our Facebook it used to say, like, pop emo gospel or something just as a joke, because we don't- Yeah,

Nicky P: You guys had me change it on the flyer 'cause that's the one I thought was hilarious.

T.J Costanza: It, it, yeah, if, if someone asked me to do it, like to, to, to define it, our, our genre, I normally say it's, like, angular heavy stuff. Just, you know... I mean, it's so, it's, that description's so o- o- open-ended, but, you know, it's hard to classify, like, you know?

Nicky P: Well, I mean, even just trying to get together on, like, what heavy is has always been fascinating to me.

Like, there's some people that think of heavy as, like, thrash, and I'm like, "Thrash isn't heavy. Thrash is something very different." Heavy to me is like I'm listening to Architects and those stupid slow sections where it feels like the music can't even hold itself up. That's, to me, heavy.

T.J Costanza: Yeah, or just, yeah, slow, like even I...

Not to be that guy that, that says the, the snobby stuff, but like some, some types of, like, orchestral music can be heavy just because it's so slow, it hits real hard. You know what I mean? But there's no distortion or anything, it's just, you know, which I've been known to headbang to some, to some classical once in a while

Nicky P: Well, I mean, so honestly, some of my, like, favorite heavy songs, like, are piano pieces.

Like, you just, you're waiting for that guy to hit that low, that low key that's just gonna s- sound like someone s- smashing two-by-fours on the ground when it hits. You know, you just

T.J Costanza: Yeah, and it makes you feel good in your, in your belly.

Brian Pritchard: Now, your sound seemed to have evolved somewhat in terms of playing around with, with melodic vocals as well as, as heavy vocals as, as a lot of bands, you know, take, take that trajectory. It seemed like there was some more harmonies and things and, and, and, new m- melodic things happening, right? As well.

So, I, I, I've always been partial to that, that, that hybrid that, like, I've never found I could get down with, like, the jam band wavelength just as far as going, like, life doesn't feel that way to me. But, like, really nor does it feel like Cannibal Corpse, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not that fucking serious, you know?

And so I, yeah, I like, I like that balance of, of light and dark. And, there's been many, many iterations of it over the years. But, yeah, you guys, you guys fit, fit neatly into that space. I, I felt

Sorry. No, I was thinking of, who's that band? Baroness is, is one of the groups that, that I was thinking of at times in, in, your sound. Do you guys listen to Baroness at all?

T.J Costanza: We have, yeah, yeah. Not, not the more recent stuff, but like the first couple, the, the albums like Red and all that stuff, those are cool.

Brian Pritchard: Yeah, it's interesting. You have some stuff that's really sludgy and then some that felt more like, you know, intricate and composed and, I, I like having all of it in the blender. It's, it's exciting.

T.J Costanza: Yeah, yeah. And the one thing I did wanna mention about that add- adding the melodic vocals with the, with the yelling and stuff is like, it's hard to...

It's really hard to find that balance to where it's like not cheesy. You know what I mean? 'Cause we've gotten, at some shows we've gotten people come up to us and comp- not compare us, but they say, "You remind me of Three Days Grace," or something. You know, more radio bands and stuff.

Nicky P: Boys Night Out's always where I go, 'cause they're one of my favorite bands in the world.

T.J Costanza: Okay. Okay. We got, w- we got Alien Ant Farm one time. That was fun

Yeah. But it's, yeah, we're actually now trying to kinda make a conscious effort to get a little heavier again. Mm-hmm. 'Cause our old stuff was real heavy. We had a different vocalist. There was no singing at all back then, and then he quit. Phil and I started doing vocals, and then we just kinda introduced the singing a little more.

Now we're like, "Let's get heavy again."

Brian Pritchard: Well, that's the fun about being able to craft set lists as you get further and further along, right? Is, is that, you know, I don't know. I, I, I'd like to imagine a world where, like, again, I, I come from that fan perspective where I want, I want to imagine that, like, the people coming are really into everything and you're going like, "Tonight we're gonna give them one of the deep cuts, but then, like, we're also gonna introduce some new stuff," and you know.

No, I, I, you know, I, I, I just treat it that way and, and, your la- your most recent, release it looked like there, there was something from 2024, and then I tried to get the new YouTube video to play and it didn't. So you, you have a new single that's out, though, at the moment as well?

T.J Costanza: We're gonna, we're gonna put one out eventually.

Brian Pritchard: So I was just trying to look at even the, the, the name of it on here, and it's trying to redirect me s- again to your Spotify for some reason. But what, what's the name of the new single that, that's on your, like, Linktree thing? Meat Suit Imperative, that's the thing I was looking at. Is that... If, if the, even if the video's not done, is that a, like, available in the world elsewhere?

T.J Costanza: That song's from two releases ago, actually. I, I haven't updated our online stuff, like M- Linktree and stuff, for a long time, so that's... Oops.

Brian Pritchard: Oh, that's cool. No, it's just, it's at the top. I, again, I feel bad. I'm not trying to, like, give you shit about it, dude. I just, I, I, I, if there's new music that, like, you're trying to push at the moment, I was curious about it.

So, like, this, th- th- this, this run that you're doing at the moment, like, the, the, the show, are you doing a run of shows, in June? Or, I mean, Youngstown to Cleveland isn't crazy far away for you to just pop over and visit. So yeah, is this just kind of a one-off for you, the 19th show?

T.J Costanza: Yeah. Yeah. We try to, we, we just take whatever opportunities we're, w- we're allowed, basically.

We happen to really enjoy playing in Cleveland. We've played a couple times now, and every time's been a pretty rad show. So, better than in Youngstown actually, dare I say it

Brian Pritchard: How'd you guys, link up with, Joe Petrich?

T.J Costanza: We played, the... It was a fest in Cleveland last year with, with IREWYRM. And Joe just started chatting with us and like him and I kind of became buds, like, you know, band buds basically.

He came to see us play in Youngstown a couple months ago and asked us to get on this show, and we're like, "Yeah. Heck yeah, man. Let's do it."

Brian Pritchard: That's great. You know, as we were saying, I, I, I suppose it was offline before we started, that notion of having boots on the ground people in a given scene that, can support you that way.

The, the idea, TJ, of making sure that any time that you spend on stage in Cleveland, that you're, you're playing for people. You know what I mean? That, even if l- even if we're not the other end of the earth, you know, that, that if you're coming, coming all the way out here, it's like, yeah, you don't, you don't wanna be first, you don't wanna be last.

It's like y- y- y- y- you need... It's just nice to have people that, that can help, you know, lift you up and support you in, in, in an unfamiliar locale, you know what I mean? We're, we're looking to book something in Youngstown probably in December. What, what are some of the, the, the cool, like, you know, venues and spots that, that, that you've had the best experience with, in your local market?

T.J Costanza: We're, I mean, the, the, the main place seems to be Westside Bowl, which is just all around good place, good people. The owner's a really good dude. They have shows like every day it seems like, which is cool. They bring in touring bands and stuff. There's a bar called Cedars that has been around since like the '70s, I think.

It used to be an old punk bar. They have shows. I think there's, there's a brewery called Penguin City. They have shows. And then there's some kind of an art space that I'm not too familiar with, but I'd like to look more into it 'cause those kind of shows would be cool. A little more DIY, you know, that kind of vibe to it

Brian Pritchard: Now, and are you finding that any of those venues, get to the point where people come just to see who's playing?

You know what I mean? Have you ever had that experience, or is it like here where, you know

T.J Costanza: Yeah, we've seen some faces that, that, that go to a lot of shows and some that have even mentioned to us, like there's, there's a good handful of people that come just to check out bands. Like they don't care who's playing, they just wanna go and see it, which makes me really happy.

You know, it gives me hope that that kind of stuff still goes on, which... And they seem to be younger people too, which is awesome.

Brian Pritchard: Do you guys have much of a, like, a college scene, there? I, I, I'm, I'm not, you know, sure off the top of my head what, what the Youngstown... Oh, okay.

T.J Costanza: Nah, it doesn't seem like it. I mean, there's, there's YSU, but, yeah, there doesn't seem to be much musical-ish stuff going on there that's not, like, you know, that is- YSU has a school of music.

It's really good, but they're more, it's more jazz and classical and that kinda stuff.

Brian Pritchard: And how far are you guys from, like, like Erie and Pittsburgh markets?

T.J Costanza: We're about an hour from each, maybe an hour and 20 from each one, and Cleveland, too. So we're kinda

Brian Pritchard: And, and, and have you then done the same thing as far as branching out to, to Erie and, and, and Pittsburgh?

T.J Costanza: We've done Pittsburgh a few times. It's, it's been cool. Not, I don't think Erie. Oh, no. You know what? We did play in Erie once and it, it was not a good show, but could've just been a fluke, you know what I mean? It doesn't seem like there's much going on up, up there, at least to our perspective, so.

Nicky P: I got a good friend up there, actually, a, a former bandmate that, like, has been running shows, Id- with Idol Star Productions up there.

They just have, like, the Men singers and stuff in Ever- in Erie.

T.J Costanza: Oh, wow. Uh,

Nicky P: I think he's got Save Ferris play there sometime this month.

T.J Costanza: Man, that, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Nicky P: So, so he's doing s- doing something up there.

T.J Costanza: Well, yeah, it's, Erie's one of those towns that kinda makes me feel like I've traveled back in time 10 years for some reason whenever I go up.

Nicky P: Well, you, you've already referenced it with that great Steve V- Steve Zahn joke earlier.

T.J Costanza: Uh-huh. Yep. I'm from Erie,

Nicky P: PA. And honestly, like, we just, I, that's one of my favorite movies. Oh, mine too,

T.J Costanza: Man.

Nicky P: It's, it's always a good feel-good movie.

T.J Costanza: It is.

Nicky P: Because it's, I don't, something about that story's fun.

T.J Costanza: Yeah.

And, and Steve Zahn is fantastic in that. I mean, he, in my mind, he's-

Nicky P: Oh, unsung treasure of that movie, without question. Yeah.

T.J Costanza: Absolutely.

Brian Pritchard: What film are you referring to, Nick?

Nicky P: That Thing You Do!

T.J Costanza: Yeah, man.

Brian Pritchard: Got it. Yeah, we, you and I may have discussed that being, a curious little blind spot in my, my, my repertoire.

Nicky P: Well, it's, it's always funny 'cause the movie is, for anyone who's a musician, there's, like, s- just, there's great musici- musician jokes in there. Like, everything about the drummer is hilarious 'cause everybody's known that guy.

T.J Costanza: Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's, it, yeah, it's super tongue in cheek. But yeah, it, it's, you know, it's a feel-good movie.

It's not, like, you know, like, even-

Nicky P: Well, it's always amusing to me that, like, the dude from, um- Tom

T.J Costanza: Hanks and Wayne...

Nicky P: Yeah, is the guy that wrote, like, th- that catchy ass song.

T.J Costanza: Yeah, man, that gets stuck in your head for days.

Nicky P: Well, what get, what gets, what pisses me off, though, is that there was, like, musicologists that, like, were trying to take the credit away from him as writer or give it partial writing credit to The Beatles.

T.J Costanza: Mm-hmm.

Nicky P: Because he wrote a song that sounds like a song of the era. Uh-huh. It's, it's like the assholes that went after Robin Thicke because he had a song the musicologists said sounded like an Al Green song. And if y- if you've ever listened to the Al Green song, it sounds nothing like it. But it was a cash grab by Al Green's remaining family members trying to live off of his corpse.

T.J Costanza: Uh-huh. Go figure.

Nicky P: The minute I hear musicologist, frankly, I just think piece of shit- Yep... Human being and hate them immediately.

T.J Costanza: I prefer human jukebox myself.

Brian Pritchard: Well, and I'm thinking about, like, people like Weird Al. Any time Weird Al would do a non-parody song, it was still usually something that, like...

Like, there's a song of his that, like, it's not a direct parody of The Doors, but it sounds like The Doors. You know what I mean? Or I'm thinking of the way that Ween, like, will do a song that sounds like Motorhead, or a song that sounds like Spandau Ballet. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, they, they can get that kind of granular.

I always thought that was cool when, I, I love it when engineers know how to-

Nicky P: Well, they put out an amazing country album.

Brian Pritchard: Oh, yeah. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. I, I heard that they're, they're putting out a, a deluxe edition that finally has the, extra two tracks that would make it, like, 12 country greats.

You know? The missing songs, buddy, they're coming.

T.J Costanza: That album's freaking genius. The whole idea behind that is fantas- that band, Ween, are... They're just genius. I love them so much.

Brian Pritchard: Do you ever get to, see them perform before they stopped playing?

T.J Costanza: No, no. I had an opportunity, but I was like, "We gotta work tomorrow.

Uh," you know?

Nicky P: Well, I mean, so yeah, I, I... So I f- I found out, I don't know if we've talked about this on this show necessarily, but I, I found out last week that Reel Big Fish is touring again with their, like, with, like, their original, like, second guy. And they're playing a show in, I believe, Columbus Like two days into our tour in June.

So like I can't go see like the reuniting of my favorite band because I'm gonna be out being in a band. Nobody told me that was gonna happen.

T.J Costanza: Yeah.

Nicky P: That's not fair. So the question, I guess, I guess another question I have is so he has his first kid on the way is what it was, is, is the saying?

T.J Costanza: Second kid, actually.

Nicky P: So, okay, so second kid even. I, I, I have to ask the question 'cause I'm always curious, you know, how you guys pl- play the, weave that thread of being dads in rock bands.

T.J Costanza: That's a good question. My daughter is 17. So she's at that age now where it's like she's kinda doing her own thing. You know what I mean?

But I, I, I'm pretty sure Zach's wife, Sarah, she's a stay-at-home mom, so. But oh, well, she works from home. I, don't quote me on that, but I'm, I'm pretty sure And he, yeah, it, Zach and I are big family people. We try to make sure we have time for that and stuff. Like, this band isn't too serious, honestly. We just, it's like we're really good friends that love hanging out and writing and recording, you know, and shows are just bonuses.

Nicky P: So you guys have other projects obviously that you work with?

T.J Costanza: It, I'm in, like, five bands. Money Men-

Nicky P: He's a mover, man...

T.J Costanza: Just to, just to like, you know, pay some more bills, that kinda thing- Mm-hmm... Like classic rock and that kinda stuff. But, the other guys, I think they just, they just jam and, you know, whoever wants to join them and, you know, like, "Okay, cool."

Nicky P: So you play guitar in other bands? Or what, wait, what do you, how does that work out for you?

T.J Costanza: I'm actually, my main instrument's drums. But in this band I play guitar and sing. But yeah, drums are the main thing. That's, that's more, the money maker.

Nicky P: A good drummer can make a lot of money.

T.J Costanza: Which is funny because three of us in the band are actually drummers.

Our other guitar player, Phil's a drummer too, so.

Nicky P: So why aren't you guys going, like, full-on Genesis here and just, like, the complete lineup across the back?

T.J Costanza: Don't get me wrong, I would love to do a whole show that's all drums, but, you know, I don't, I don't-

Nicky P: Who is it, d- you familiar with STRFKR or Starfucker, like, that they started out as?

T.J Costanza: Heard of, never checked them out, but-

Nicky P: Well, what I always found interesting, so, like, they're, they're all definitely multi-instrumentalist guys. They're primarily, like, a keyboard-based band, but, like, there's drums all over the stage for, like, little, little breakouts of, like, polyrhythm that they'll get into, or, like, everybody in the band basically is playing, like, some toms or some shit.

T.J Costanza: Okay. I'd love to do that kinda stuff.

Nicky P: Yeah, it was, it was always fascinating to me, especially because, like, you're listening to basically a synthesizer band. Like, and, and, and having, like, so many live drums kind of as part of things was just kind of fun.

T.J Costanza: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. Like, yeah, it's, it's, also we're kinda lazy and we don't wanna haul that much equipment around, so.

Brian Pritchard: Multiple drum kits? Oh, why?

Nicky P: The first time I saw them, I think they opened up for a, a hip hop group, actually. It was really, it was, yeah, they opened up, or the hip hop group opened up for them. But, like, dude, it was so wild, like, the intermingling of, 'cause they were like, they'd k- like help out on stage and stuff with, like, some of the, the musical elements.

It was, it was wild. Just v- very rhythmically associated people.

T.J Costanza: Yeah, yeah. Like, r- rightly so.

Nicky P: Champagne Champagne, that was the, the group I'm thinking of. Their MC's this guy called Pearl Dragon.

T.J Costanza: Okay. I've never heard of them.

Nicky P: I, most people probably haven't. They're, like, indie hip hop.

Brian Pritchard: Oddly enough, man, on, on the show coming up where we're playing together on the 19th, um- I write a lot of the material on guitar, but I play drums, on the albums and on stage.

And, so I'm, I'm more the drummer from, from Puma Thurman. But on the 19th, I will be playing guitar. That, that, yeah, I'm f- I'm filling in for a missing guitar player, and I have another drummer friend, filling in for me that night. So you will see like a sort of one-off version of, of our act on the 19th, which is funny.

Nicky P: We'll see if it's a one-off. It's the, it's the B version.

Brian Pritchard: That's true. Yeah, that it, it may not be a, a, that, that's true. It's not strictly speaking a one-off, but it's, uh-

Nicky P: The point of contention for me and Brian has always been is this a band or is it a musical collective that we lead?

T.J Costanza: Okay.

Nicky P: Okay, that's deep.

And, and some days it feels- Deep... More like the musical collective that we lead.

T.J Costanza: Yeah. Hey, nothing wrong with that, man.

Brian Pritchard: Well, you, you, you know, the, the, so I was wrong about the song that you list as the new song being the new song, but you guys do have a new single that has a video in the works, but the song is done.

Like, we like to play out these interviews with s- with something people can listen to. What, what, what, what do you wanna share? And it doesn't have to be something new, but what do you wanna share, man?

T.J Costanza: So the song is recorded, it's just not officially released yet. But the song is gonna be called Jet Speed Geometries.

We, we'll, we're, we'll probably play it Friday, or Friday the 19th. Is

Nicky P: That one, on, was that one of the ones you guys sent me, when we initially talked, or did I send something else?

T.J Costanza: I don't think we sent that. I'm pretty sure. Or, I mean, I might have. I don't know. Our brains don't work too well anymore, so.

Brian Pritchard: So Nick, you're not sure what you have as far as, like, the song that, that, that we'll be able to play people at the end of the episode? That-

Nicky P: It's gonna kick ass, that's all I know, 'cause it, the, the material's good, bro So if you're watching this, stay watching it

T.J Costanza: I'd say, I guess, the song called Until the Shaking Stops.

It's from our last release, Compositions from God's Gray Earth. I think it's the last song on that. That's like our, that's like our big song. Like, not big, like, y- like it sounds big, you know what I mean? Like, that's a good, that's a good closing number. We used to close every show with it, that kinda thing.

Brian Pritchard: Outstanding, dude. Well, I, I'm really appreciate that you, you took some time to connect with us, and I, I, I l- I want it to be an ongoing conversation, and Youngstown in particular makes that easy, buddy. Like, that's a market that we'd love to establish in, and, so we wanna be on your, your radar out here, and, would be happy to host and, and do more stuff.

I'm, I'm looking forward to getting to share the stage on the 19th and have some fun, man.

T.J Costanza: Yeah, man, definitely. That- that's gonna be awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing you guys and hanging out with you guys and just making new friends and seeing old friends. It's gonna be a really good show. And I'm sorry about Zach having to bail because of his dumb computer.

Nicky P: No, no, you're okay. We, we, we tried. We tried, like, damn hard. And I felt bad having to turn the mic off on him, but I w- I, I'm getting such a bad slapback on all the three of us through his microphone that I'm like-

T.J Costanza: Yeah. Oh, no, it, it was tripping me out too, man...

Nicky P: And I'm trying to, like, hear what the actual, you guys are actually saying, and it's like I, I, I gotta just, I gotta get this down to one person talking to me at the same time, not two people talking to me.

T.J Costanza: Basically, your head was

Nicky P: On

T.J Costanza: Fire. Pretty much. Yeah.

Nicky P: And I got, I've got enough hair that, like, that, that actually burns.

T.J Costanza: Yeah, man.

Nicky P: Well, once again, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Everybody out there, go out, check these dudes out. Neighbor Dan, I, I can almost swear by him if you're gonna be in the area the 19th, no class, come check him out with us at Puma Thurman.

Peace.