Robert Redford's death and Brian's Spy Game synchronicity [00:00:00]

Nicky P: How is everyone doing today? We are the podcast at the nexus of music, movies and middle age. We are. We come from celluloid. I'm Nicky P here with my partner in crime. Brian, as always, how are you doing today, my friend, aside from punching me in the gut with the news that Robert Redford died. It's a weird one.

Brian Pritchard: Yeah. I, I was, I, oddly enough, you know, and, and this will happen sometimes. I, I, I remember that I was watching Robert Altman's, like newest film. Like when I got the news that Robert Altman died, you know, and, and I watched Robert Redford in, Tony Scott's movie Spy Game with, him and Brad Pitt. It's an early two thousands movie, not a masterpiece, you know what I mean?

The Old Man and the Gun as a perfect final performance [00:01:00]

But like what I've gone back to, but. I hadn't watched that movie in like 20 years and suddenly got the itch to watch Spy Game, Sunday afternoon. And yeah, so day before yesterday I was, watching and, and revisiting Redford. And that one's interesting, you know, because, I remember thinking at the time that it was like these two generations of, the golden gods of, of, cinema, right?

Uh. That, that having Redford as a, a mentor to Brad Pitt in that film had a passing of the torch kind of feeling to it. That to me, does make that movie special. Aside from just being a big Tony Scott fan, um. But yeah, red Redford, I mean, is, is, onscreen and off. I mean, the Sundance stuff that he did was, I, I, I'd say a, a a pretty huge part of his legacy as well.

Passing of the torch movies: Spy Game and generational casting [00:02:00]

And, he was, you know, one of the last living, movie stars, right. That, that, that we had. So, yeah,

Nicky P: I mean, he's almost like a bridge between like. Classic Hollywood and Modern Hollywood. The, the particular era that he's from too, like he was there for a lot of it.

Brian Pritchard: I saw a movie of his not terribly long ago, like where he was like, like a bank robber on the run.

It was him and Sissy SpaceX. Does that ring any bells?

Nicky P: But I can't remember why,

Brian Pritchard: Man. And, and I wish I could remember the title. It sounds like it's a Google search or I mdb pull away. But, and I, and so I'm gonna look it up, but like, I'm thinking like, what was the last thing I saw him, man. Like, was he still working late?

And then I'm going, oh, I really liked that movie. You know? Yeah, but I'll have to pull up the name of

The Score: When three acting generations meet in a mediocre movie [00:03:00]

Nicky P: It. Well, you did kinda actually post stuff in there that I do often think about and. What, what do you think are the best passing of the Torch movies? I'll tell you

Brian Pritchard: One that, comes to mind, but failed to live up to the promise of it.

But there's a movie called The Score, which was Marlon Brando, Robert De Niro, and Ed Edward Norton. That, especially when it came out and where Edward Norton was, felt like. A three generation, sort of like best and brightest, coming together, but they came together for kind of a dumb movie.

Unfortunately,

Nicky P: For me, whenever I hear the term like passing of the torch, I, I actually always think of like the movie that never was for me, and it's, it's for years I've always wanted them to like. Blitz and Sure. And the question, who has the.

Snake Plissken franchise potential and Kurt Russell's irreplaceability [00:04:00]

The particular flare, like the, the personality that could possibly replace Kurt Russell and because I mean, that character screams, you know, stories forever. They could go forever with that character. And it always just like, it felt like a, it's too easy to like do this boom. You know, you put him on an adventure with a younger actor, he dies at the end, the name snake gets taken and like.

The movie, the setup is just right there. 'cause like the character snake could be forever. It's, it's just gotta be an archetype more than anything.

Brian Pritchard: Well, and I feel like they didn't even try to continue him in comic book form a little bit, you know, to that, to that. But, did you ever see a movie called Overlord, maybe 10 years ago, eight, 10 years ago?

Where, where it's like a a, a World War II era. It was like a Nazi zombie movie or something. Overlord. But I remember watching that movie and going, whoa, this guy reminds me of Kurt Russell. Right? And the credits role, and it's Wyatt Russell, right? Who I, I I hadn't seen, previously and. It was really exciting to me of going like, oh my God.

Like his, his kids got the voice, his kids got the look. So I, I don't know how much time you've, you've spent watching him on screen, but like the, the, all the Marvel movie stuff, like he's been kind of central to, um. He was in the Falcon and Winter Soldier Series as like the new Captain America, who then like, like went kind of crazy from the Super Soldier serum.

Wyatt Russell as Snake Plissken successor [00:06:00]

And then he was in Thunderbolts, the, the New Avengers, which is the spinoff. So, he is kind of like, if they were ever gonna do it, they could a thousand percent do it right now. With him. With his boy. Yeah.

Nicky P: You know what's another thing I I always think of when I think of, Kurt Russell is how long that guy has been acting.

And I think a lot of people don't really understand how long he's, because you know, like I think in my head, I usually think of him like in the earliest, like the early eighties, him and Goldie ha doing all those, those movies like Overboard and whatever, those like comedies things. No, he is a little Disney kid.

Well, yeah, and then I forget like, oh no, he was the computer who wore tennis shoes back in. Like what? In the sixties and stuff like that. Oh my God. That dude's been at it forever,

Brian Pritchard: Dude. Like wasn't he Walt Disney's like final words or something weird like that. Have you heard that anecdote?

Walt Disney's mysterious final words: "Kurt Russell [00:07:00]

Nicky P: Triggers a memory, but I don't it not a very specific one.

Brian Pritchard: Well, it's, it's another that I'll have make in, in a moment to, to try to, you know, just go beyond memory, but. There's some vague recollection that if not out loud, he at least wrote down the name like Kurt Russell, like on his deathbed. And Kurt Russell was still a kid, he was a Disney kid that, that like, had done work for him, but that like, there was some that he was on his mind.

Alright. This

Nicky P: One. This one I couldn't, I can't let pass, so. Okay. In 1960 sucks. Russell who'd become close friends with Disney, signed a 10 year contract called Disney Production. No. This was by all kind, always working like straight up, scribbling notes on the walls of movie ideas, park thoughts, and trying to improve tomorrow on his death.

But family said you couldn't talk up to him about anything else. His father's death only made it worse. Oh, where am I? Like I, I, so like. Why did it take me to Reddit for this? This is stupid. And he was, what I read up on like just the search was Walt Disney died from cancer in 66. On his deathbed, Walt repeatedly scribbled several things on a pad.

His last words were Kurt Russell. He.

Brian Pritchard: What, so, you know, the, the AI overview says Walt Disney's last words were not Kurt Russell. But, but that the last thing he wrote was a note listing potential future TV projects, including the names Ron Miller. Two way down seller Kurt Russell and CIA,

Nicky P: I dunno.

Justing Uhhuh, Uhhuh. I mean, Kurt doesn't scream CIA to me, but, you know, I wish, I wish the CIA was more like Kurt Russell to be awesome.

Brian Pritchard: The, Robert Redford one by the way was called The Old Man and the Gun Simple Title. Oh, that is a good movie. Yes. And it was great. Yeah. And that was like 10 years ago.

Kurt Russell's incredible career longevity from Disney kid to action star [00:09:00]

So he was, he was late seventies at the time. Right. And well that's still had a twinkle

His design. That's, yeah,

Nicky P: That's reminded me of that, the movie that came out just a little bit ago. I think it was, it was, it was it Pierce Brosnan's playing like the old soldier, going like back to his World War.

I like stomping grounds or something. Like it was, it's just weird just saying Pierce Broin is clearly like an 80-year-old man and you know, it's he oh oh seven, no more kids. You know, that kind of thing about it. And it looked like a really cool movie for like, was it an action film or what? No, no, no, no, no.

Not at all. More of a

Brian Pritchard: Character piece for, for, old peers. Got it. Yeah. He showed up in a little role. Stephen Soderberg, put out a movie called Black Black Bag. Okay. Black Book or Black Bag. I think it was Black Bag. I saw it twice. I, I, I really liked it. I saw it in the theaters and, and, and, picked it up since I, I'm a big Soderberg fan anyway, but, why the fuck did I bring that up?

Um,

Nicky P: Rewind me. Yeah. I'm entirely sure you brought it up, but it is definitely, I'm looking at, looking at on Pierce Brosnan's page.

Brian Pritchard: Oh yes. Thank you. Thank you. It was, it was, that he played the head of like the CIA or something in that. Right. So it was cool to see the spy, graduating to like the m role.

Right. The, head of the agency. Talking to the younger spies. Thank you. Yes, it was Pierce Bros.

Nicky P: Did that. The last rifleman is what I'm I'm talking about here, and that's a World War II veteran escape. A World War II veteran, escape his care home in northern island and embarks in an arduous but inspirational journey to France to attend the 75th anniversary of the D-Day landings.

Finding the courage to face the ghosts of his past.

Brian Pritchard: I like it. If it's Irish, then he gets to use his real voice. Maybe, well,

Nicky P: I mean, it may be a thing at his age, you know, you wanna trip him up by making him do anything else, honestly. But it looked, it would just look like a cool movie. I don't, I'm that era will, I think, will always fascinate me, you know, because it's just such a, it's, it's not really that long ago.

When you think about it, but it feels, it feels like a hundred years ago, even though it's, you know, my grandparents were there, like they were, shit, that kind of thing. But like, yeah, the World War ii. And like, even like, you know, granted we've been at our, our country has been at war for every single day that we've, you and I have been alive.

The idea of war is just so different now, I guess, than it was back then for us. Like, you know, there's the very, dude, those dudes ran on the fricking beach into a hail of gunfire, throwing it right back. Whereas, you know, for us, war is a thing that happens in other countries with drone bombs, generally speaking.

Brian Pritchard: Dude, the meth that gets a little weird for me is like, like the, the time gap between when I was born in the eighties and World War II was 40 years. Right. And so like. That's like somebody today talking about the Reagan era, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like those are the things that throw me a little bit where like even something like Saturday Night Live celebrating 50 years on the air or whatever, it's sort of like that's, that's a chunk of time, that, that again like that, that, that equivalent of going like, oh, okay. So even look at, a 60 year time gap.

Christian Bale's career evolution and transformation ability [00:13:00]

Right. Um. The 1960s, I was just, right before this call, I was watching my new copy of, hard Day's Night, the Beatles movie. Loving It. Loving It, right? But that movie is 60 years old, okay? It's 60 years old. And 60 years prior to my being born was the Roaring twenties. You know what I mean? So somebody today.

Has has the same distance to the Beatles, right. As I did to the Great Gatsby, growing up. And yet they still, they're, they read and enjoy the Great Gatsby today. So, I don't know, I guess cool shit is kind of eternal. And once the cool shit and pop culture clock started. That stuff is timeless in a different way, but I, it's hard to say how younger people perceive or think about that and like, yeah, indeed.

Like, does it feel the same for a young person in their mind? To think about the 1960s as, as far away as the roaring twenties felt for me, I, I wonder, I don't know.

Nicky P: Okay. How many nineties, like movies that, like movies set in the nineties, when they do it right now, how many of 'em feel authentic, do you think?

Brian Pritchard: I thought the Stranger Things TV show, which kind of to me kicked that off. Right. Did an amazing job, you know, capturing the feel and look and stuff like that. But

Nicky P: Look, I know. Don't get, don't get me, don't me. Started on crying thinking about Eddie, man.

Brian Pritchard: Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm excited to see how they wrap all of that, that, that up, you know, that's, that's been a unique bit of.

Storytelling just as far as the like kid actors of it all, and the challenges that that's created. Like little 11 just got married recently in real life and stuff like

Nicky P: That. You know, like isn't little 11 like in her mid twenties at this point?

Brian Pritchard: That's my point. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah. Like it's, it's uh,

Nicky P: Like dust.

Dustin is playing a baby face for like, he's gonna be 30 and still playing the same baby face.

Brian Pritchard: Yeah. Yeah. Well, and, and, and that, that, that's the thing, you know, it's. It's fun going back and watching like a show, like 21 Jump Street, for example. Like you'll get a a, a Vince Vaughn or a Shely fan or you know, Johnny Depp himself, right?

Richard Grieco like came out of that show. It's, it's just, it's always interesting to watch the arcs of things and see who ends up staying around. See who ends up getting a weird little. Second wind of sorts, like, I don't know, we may have already even touched on this in a previous episode, but like Josh Hartnett has been fun to see, like, bubbling up again and things like Oppenheimer and Black Mirror and, and going like.

Oh, this old wise humble heart net, has a different energy than the young man one did. Right. Whereas, I, I, I look at somebody like Sydney Sweeney, and I go, I, I don't see a world in which I'm watching her. Perform in 20 years, I think she will come and go and be gone. Whereas I look at that other guy from that show, that, so actually I wanna

Nicky P: Touch on that 'cause there was somebody else I didn't realize who I'm thinking of very much.

Would you, would, you're gonna think Oh yeah, totally live that. And it's, Alicia Cuthbert like. I was sitting there thinking about Alicia Cuth birthday today. 'cause I remember in college like, oh my God, she was the hot girl and like she was in those things and was huge for the time. It was huge. And then like maybe 5, 6, 8 years, nothing.

But what I, what I've been finding in more and more of like those actresses is they all go and find like nice, comfortable homes in tv, like working in like network television. Like maybe not like the Star, but definitely like one of the supporting roles in those shows. And I. I had no idea. Like these people were like, still acting, but they're still out there doing this stuff.

You just, because they're not the new hotness, they're not in the same limelight, I guess. So it's, it's interesting.

Brian Pritchard: Well, no, there is that, I mean to, to me the running joke was always the show Jag, right. Over the years where, you know, that was on the show for like 15 fucking years, man. You know what I mean?

Like, and you'd see it pop up every now and again on like the Emmys or something, and you'd be like. Who's fucking watching Jag and keeping this show on the air. 2224 episodes, a, a, a year of Jag were being made. But, or like when my wife would watch, shameless, which I didn't watch, but, but I remember I would pop in as she was watching episodes and I saw Joan Cusack and it was like, oh, is that where Joan Cusack

Nicky P: Has been?

Because like. Just, I literally just started the first episode the other day and I saw Joe Cusack and I'm like, fucking Joan Cusack, really, I mean. The, the cast in that show is unbelievable. For the record, the American version of it, like, it always, it always amused me that William h Macy was playing a shithead, but like, I don't know, white watching a TV show about white trash just reminds me too much of the area I came from.

So I try not to do a lot of it. I even, even, like, I didn't finish the first episode yet 'cause I'm like, I don't know how much of this I really need to see. I know this life, it's, it's not something to be glorified, it's to say the least. But like, there's so many actors that I love now in that show that I kind of wanna go and see.

'cause I know that was their start.

Brian Pritchard: Well, no, I, I, I, I think that there, there, there's, on the one hand, a hot young star can help get a project made, right? So if a hot young star happens to also love cinema. And, um. They can help get financing, right? For, for storytelling voices that we all love. And, and so that's always really interesting to see.

And, and so, so sometimes people end up emerging as more interesting of a, a, a talent then maybe originally suspected like Robert Pattinson comes to mind as a guy that was easy to dismiss in the Twilight era. But that dude went out of his way to like go to, David Cronenberg, right. And, and sit there and be like.

Hey, I'm the biggest movie star in the world right now. What do you feel like doing, buddy? You know, and, and they made a couple movies together and then he gets pulled into, who's the guy that, that, that's make Robert Eggers, right? The Lighthouse movie. I loved that movie, right? So like, I remember going on opening weekend and the lighthouse is packed.

At at at Crocker Park in Westlake. Right? Real ritzy neighborhood here in Ohio. And I, and I'm looking around going, what the fuck? How did this little weird art movie get a packed house? And it's all young women. And I'm going, I guess they're here for Robert Pattinson. There's only two people in the fucking movie.

It's him and Willem Defoe, right

Nicky P: There. Is there, I mean, Robert Patson probably didn't hurt that, but I mean, that is also a female heavy genre

Brian Pritchard: Horror in general. Yeah.

Nicky P: Horror is definitely like where women go. That was actually, I, I am not sure. Did you watch, Nate Bart's Emmy speech, like opening like sketch for the Emmys?

Yes. And and he makes that joke, in fact, like who's gonna watch all these shows about murderers? My wife? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your life. And pretty much just everyone's wives. But I, I, I was gonna say, I, I still have yet to see the lighthouse. It's on my list for this year. But man, imagine the witch, like where he came from.

The, the witch is maybe one of the most ridiculous pieces of like horror cinema I've ever watched in my life. That was unbelievable. Like, just so incredibly well done. Did you watch New Nosferatu? I have not watched Nosferatu yet. I don't watch a lot of movies when they come out just because it's expensive.

I'll, it'll probably be on my list for next year to watch, but, but yeah, I mean, the guy, the guy, I've never seen him do anything that's been bad so far. And like. There's, they always talk about like the, with the, the lighthouse, like his portrayal of madness. And that is just really, really interesting.

And that's the type of horror that I tend to gravitate to, to in general. You know, like the Samuel Neil at the mountains of madness, like watching people unravel. Like that's, that's the best kinda horror. That's like, that's real horror to me.

Brian Pritchard: But he's got a sense of humor too. You know what I mean? Like h he Oh, absolutely.

He's, he is, he is got, yeah. En enough of a dark comic touch. And that movie in particular makes me laugh out loud. The lighthouse is hilarious.

Nicky P: I'll go as far as to say, like, even as like bleak and depressing as the witch was. Oh, there's little jokes in that thing. Do not, do not even be dissuaded.

Like a lot of the shit that had to do with the goat in that movie was completely like, oh, he's just sticking his tongue out. Like it's funny.

Brian Pritchard: Jacob, all Lorde, who's even hosted like SNL at this point is, um. He's, he is one of the guys from Euphoria that, I saw in that movie Saltburn, and then I saw him play Elvis.

And then maybe something else, but like, that'll happen sometimes where like that, that kid Will, Poulter is another one where like I'll see somebody in a bunch of things back to back and, and suddenly they get credibility for me where it's like, no, this is somebody that. Could be like a really great part of my, of cinema, for the next, you know, 10 or 20 years And

Nicky P: Will Poulter's weird because like Will Poulter to me was literally just a kid in a meme for a long period of time.

Well, for looking like Sid from Toy Story, I guess. Is that what it's, well, he's a kid that does the. It's from him. I think it's from him. The movie The Millers, like he makes a face in it or something. That's just ridiculous. But, he, from that, all of a sudden, like he's this fricking jacked dude. In fucking, you know, playing, playing not a great version of the character, but playing, Marvel superhero, you know?

Brian Pritchard: Oh yeah. Right, right, right, right. Adam Warlock, right?

Nicky P: Yeah. He played a crappy Adam Warlock, but I don't get wrong. I, I like to, I like him, I like him. His, him playing in that role, like playing a role, but to me, that's definitely not the character from the comics. It's just this. That's meant to look similar to the character.

I dunno, I dunno what the hell they were thinking. But, but I do like him in the movie 'cause it's just, his personality was funny and fun and it fit well into the context of the movie. It's just like, couldn't, you could have gave him another name or something, I don't know, like pick some other crappy character.

Nobody knows.

Brian Pritchard: Well, and, and I, I, I do assume, and you know, like, I think. Not being an asshole probably helps too, right? Like that, that the more I think people let, let the talent and everything go to their head. Like a guy like Val Kilmer, like from all accounts, um. Was just so difficult to, you know what I mean?

Engage, at, at a certain point that people just stopped wanting to work with the guy that Edward Norton, as talented as he is, is somebody that like, seems to frustrate his collaborators to the point where they over are willing to overlook the talent and be like. Dude, it's just too much of a fucking handful, you know?

And, people don't always want,

Nicky P: I was watching some, I was watching a reel the other day and I can't remember what actor it was. They were talking about like, working with one of those like, crazy method. Oh, it was, it was the guy who played Biff. He was talking about working, talking with, the original Marty and how like he, he Oh, Eric's school.

Yeah. And he, he's like, and I sort of was like, Hey guy. It's just a movie. What's it called? We're trying to have fun here. You know? Stop being such a douche

Because didn't he hit him for real or something like that? Yeah. Oh, something he was going to is what he says. At the end of that, he is like, but. You know, you also have, think about like the actors that like, don't really seem to have suffered from that. Like, I'm in, in my head, Christian Bale is notoriously fucking terrible to work with, but like Christian Bale finds work.

I don't And is that, is it maybe a thing where he is executive producing all of him stuff?

Brian Pritchard: Yeah, I know, but it doesn't, it seem like his star diminished too. Christian bale's not really. I don't know. I feel like Christian Bale had a, a moment where he was really on a roll and extremely considered very bankable.

And yes, he is so talented that people do still hire him. But like, yeah, I think that stuff did hurt him. You know what I mean? In, in terms of like people wanting to Yeah. Engage with them. Like, I don't know. I'm looking to see what the last like. I liked Vice, but Vice was almost, they had 2018. His, his Dick Cheney movie was really good.

I Did you ever see that

Nicky P: One? I have not. I, it looked really fricking funny. I have a lot of, a lot of emotions tied up into that era of politics though, so God knows what I'd I'd do with that.

Brian Pritchard: It's also one of, he's collaborated with Amy Adams like three times maybe at this point between, um. The, the fighter and, American Hustle, which I love, love that movie and their dynamic

Newsies, American Hustle, and Bale's willingness to look unflattering [00:28:00]

Nicky P: In, I guess there's nothing like he's been someone who's super willing to transform himself into a role in sometimes very unflattering ways.

That always astounds me. Like he will just chew. He like American Hustle being one of 'em. Like he's such a fucking skeezy looking dude in that movie, and he runs with it. But man, don't forget much like Kurt Russell. He's another Disney kid. Newsies man.

Brian Pritchard: Yeah. Newsies man. I, I saw Newsies in the theater.

Alright. Knew Christian as a kid. I, I a neighbor who loved his musical theater and absolutely wanted to see Newsies on day.

Nicky P: I don't, I would wanna see in music. I love it though.

Brian Pritchard: The Empire of the Sun, the, the Spielberg movie was excellent. Empire of the Sun was even earlier than that. Wow. Where he's at the prisoner of war

Camp.

Nicky P: Yeah. But yeah, dude, I mean, while we're thinking of like long, kind of like careers and stuff like that, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna focus back on a, on a short career. Not that it was short, when you really think back to how much the guy did in it, um. I'm bringing it up. 'cause we mentioned it the other day. We were, we were talking about Colin Hanks and the drive to our, our most recent gig.

John Candy appreciation begins [00:29:00]

And you know, I'm not a big fan of Colin Hanks, like at a certain point I liked him and then, I don't know, I stopped liking him for some reason. But him and Ryan Reynolds, like he's directing Reynolds, produced a new documentary on probably my. I might say my favorite human that's ever existed, and that's on John Candy and I'm.

Overly excited to see this documentary because like I've watched a lot of documentaries on the guy, but so many of them have not had access to the people that like they have access to, to make this particular documentary because it's Colin Hanks and I'm really excited to see what like some of the people have to say about like having worked with him, you know.

The John Candy documentary directed by Colin Hanks [00:30:00]

In like more detail and I've gotten to see them talk about it before.

Brian Pritchard: Yeah. I mean, so when, when you say, you know, favorite humans like that again extends beyond farmers. Like, do you,

Nicky P: And well by the way, dude, like we're of the, where the aids he was when he

Brian Pritchard: Died right now, did he put out a biography or something else that, that you felt like got, you got to know him beyond his screen persona?

Nicky P: No, he's just someone I've seen people talk about a little bit here and there. Throw that a lot of fucking warmth. Yeah, no, no doubt. Well, and, and well, and that's the thing is 'cause so much of his. On, on stage persona was was that, I mean, dude fucking, I can't watch planes, trains, and automobiles without breaking down to this day because he, he, god, he like, he plays that character so raw and like so incredibly like moving that you're like.

Planes, Trains, and Automobiles emotional impact [00:31:00]

It's, it's, it's barf par doing the marry, you know, you know, but there's, do you know the movie Career opportunities? It sounds familiar. What air is that?

Brian Pritchard: That's early nineties. It's a John Hughes script and it's Frank Whaley and Jennifer Conley, hold up in a Target overnight together. Okay.

Definitely it. But John Candy has like a five minute, you know, scene stealing role, where again, it's just like his sweetness is palpable, right? Like yeah.

Nicky P: And that was like, I'm talking to Liz and it's like, okay, so it's one thing like with. There's the eighties kids and yeah, uncle Buck and all that stuff.

But dude, I want you to think about this. He had how many moments of screen time in home alone and he walks away with that movie, like him, him playing that the fricking that, like that dude that he plays, driving in the back of a van from one city to another for the polka group like. Just that little role and, and I've never heard anyone kind of do anything to discredit that.

Career Opportunities and scene-stealing sweetness [00:32:00]

That's exactly who he was in real life. Like he's acting to a certain degree, but he's mostly just channeling who he was as a human being in those, those roles. He's just such an empathetic person that like he, he carried that wherever he went. Was

Brian Pritchard: He part of the SCTV group? Group as well?

Nicky P: Oh yeah, some of his best stuff, Ty, old Sct V stuff.

He's, he's ridiculous.

Brian Pritchard: I remember that there was a, a video, like greatest package. At the library and, do you remember even stripes? Like yes. No, I've definitely seen stripes a bunch, but there, I, I, SCTV is one where like I, I, I should look and see if somebody, one of the streamers just has like the full run or something, you know what I mean?

Home Alone's minimal screen time, maximum impact [00:33:00]

Um. Yeah, there's a lot of great talent from there. I've seen the greatest hits package that I remember renting over and over again from my local library on VHS growing up. But, uh,

Nicky P: Well, one of, like, one of my favorite moments of the movie, and I can't even, I got right now, I can't remember what it is, but it's him and Eugene Le.

Are in this movie together from like the early eighties and all I remember is like, I think he play, he plays a drummer in a band in the movie, but there's this scene where like he's in the background, like playing on a drum kit with headphones on and saying.

And just the image of him, like Mediocrely playing the drums, like singing false shadow in the background. It's the funniest damn thing in the world to me. I don't know why. I love it and, and I think, I think, I think so much of it, this is because it's like a guy who is, was so incredibly funny. But then, like, dude, you get those moments like say in Uncle Buck where he tells that woman he is gonna rip that, rip that ward off her face and give it to a rat, to gnaw.

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And like, it's, it's, it's funny, but at the same time, like I wouldn't fuck with the dude either because he could see like, God, he keeps carrying something with him. Uh. But anyways, I just really wanted to, wanted to gu like it, it is weird to me to think about that that dude died when he was 43. And you look back on the breadth of what he accomplished and, you know, I, to a certain degree, I feel like he almost accomplished as much as a Christian Baal did in half the time.

Brian Pritchard: He created, some performances that, have lasted, uh. Longer than he was alive and performing at this point, just about right. So, yeah, that's, that's its own sort of, amazing bit of legacy and, eternity to, to manage in parts great or small to be. Captured on the screen. In, in, in that way is, yeah, it's just a, an interesting sort of, I don't know, locked in time, locked in amber kind of thing.

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That is, is cool, cool to observe. You know, I'm, I'm gonna run, I asked it. We could, if we could start a little earlier today, because I'm going, with my family to. To see Spinal Tap two. So just to set, set up for a, a future conversation. I'm going to see the Spinal Tap sequel in about an hour and a, so I've got, big expectations, you know.

Nicky P: Alright, Brian, let's, let's bring things to an end here. You've gotta run. I gotta run. Life is on the run. We can take it on the run perhaps, but it's all you out there.